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and that does it for this hour live from orlando. i'm chris jansing. dnc chair and congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz will join chuck todd in just a moment. "mtp daily" starts now. ♪ ♪ good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington, and welcome back to "mtp daily." don't go anywhere this hour. unbelievable moving parts. new developments on the investigation in the orlando massacre. and who else knew about what the killer was planning. we'll dive into a frantic day of political reaction to the shooting, which included a one-two punch from donald trump from both president obama and hillary clinton as trump is getting ready to speak again later tonight and no doubt will respond. in just a moment we'll speak with debbie wasserman schultz following news of a massive data breach on dnc computers by russian hackers and bernie
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sanders's new demands that she be replaced as party chair. by the way, that's not even mentioning the big news that hillary clinton and bernie sanders are about to meet tonight after the d.c. primary. as you can see, a lot of moving parts. but let's start with the truly astonishing back and forth today and the reaction to the orlando shooting massacre and trump's comments on the attack. we watched what clearly looked to be a coordinated counterstrike from both heads of the democratic party. here in washington, president obama unloaded on every major criticism and controversial statement that trump has made since the shooting. and literally the same time in pittsburgh, down to the minute, hillary clinton took full aim at trump. now, most people only saw president obama. at times, it was as if they were reading off the same script at the same time. for instance, trump has attacked both of them for not labelling the threat "radical islamic terrorism." here are their responses coming literally within seconds of each
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other. >> is donald trump suggesting that there are magic words that once uttered will stop terrorists from coming after us? >> there's no magic to the phrase "radical islam." it's a political talking point. >> here's another example. in his blistering attack on trump, president obama called on republicans to reject trump's rhetoric on muslims. >> we now have proposals from the presumptive republican nominee for president from the united states to bar all muslims from emigrating to america. we hear language that singles out immigrants and suggests entire religious communities are complicit in violence. where does this stop? do republican officials actually agree with this? >> now here's clinton making the exact same argument.
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again, it was right at the same time president obama was speaking. >> just one day after the massacre he went on tv and suggested that president obama is on the side of the terrorists. now just think about that for a second. i have to ask, will responsible republican leaders stand up to their presumptive nominee, or will they stand by his accusation about our president? >> those are just a few of the similarities. trump fired back at some of the attacks. he's accusing the president of prioritizing our enemies over our allies and the american people. we're sure to get a lot more reaction from trump tonight. he'll be addressing supporters in greensboro, north carolina. his rally comes at a time of escalating anxiety among republicans over his temperament and the campaign. let's go to hallie jackson who
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is in greensboro with the trump campaign. if i'm not mistaken, the last time he was there, we had a not so nice incident that took place between a supporter and somebody who was protesting donald trump. but let's set that aside. i want to get his campaign's reaction to what president obama and hillary clinton have said today. >> reporter: you touched on it a little bit there. trump telling the associated press, seeming to question president obama's patriotism, that the president does continue to prioritize enemies over allies. and for that matter, the american people. he added that when he is president, it will always be america first. we have reached out independently to the trump campaign to confirm these comments and haven't heard back. but you can expect to hear him talk about that tonight in his rally. to use that line of attack, this is of course his first rally since the orlando shooting, since that speech yesterday in which he focused on national security and foreign policy, and focused less on attacking hillary clinton, which is why, chuck, i do expect that you will
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hear trump roll out some of the lines that he held back in the speech yesterday. he will likely roll them out tonight. he will also continue to build up those attacks throughout the week. he's got rallies believe here in north carolina, but then he heads to nevada. he'll be in vegas later in the week. he's got one in georgia later in the week as well. >> now what we saw was a coordinated attack between the president and hillary clinton. harry reid went on the senate florida, excoriated mitch mcconnell for trump. here's what i didn't see today. i didn't see a lot of republicans backing trump up. have you seen anything? >> reporter: no. you saw basically two camps. the not talkers, and i guess the not happy, i guess you could call them. mitch mcconnell simply refused to talk at all about donald trump, even when asked directly about it. you had others and my colleague was going after senators in the hallway as well, and many of them said they didn't want to talk about trump at all. the other camp, of course are people who are not happy with
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donald trump, like senator lamar alexander who told the associated press, we still don't have a nominee until after the convention. senator bob corker said he's now discouraged by trump's campaign. he believes that that speech yesterday is not one that trump should give, given that he wants to lead a country in difficult times. an early supporter of trump and he was rumored to have been on the vp short list. >> hallie jackson, and i thought it was greensboro, but it's fayetteville where we had the incident of a supporter, not in greensboro. hallie jackson, we'll be watching your report. thank you very much. let me bring in richard haas, president on the council of foreign relations. richard, become to the show. >> thanks, chuck. >> i haven't heard your reaction to what you heard from donald trump yesterday. what was your reaction? >> well, there were two parts. i think the comments as opposed to the speech, the insinuations about the president crossed a line.
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there simply isn't a place in our politics. we can have legitimate differences, we can have real differences, but to insinuate in any way that the president is somehow a trafficker with terrorists, again, it crosses a line. it's also ironic because this president more than most shall we say, has made going after terrorists a priority, particularly through drone strikes. so that's one thing. in terms of the speech itself, it just seems to me the entire notion of banning a class of people is intellectually and politically wrong and counterproductive. the best way to discourage people from terrorism is to have close relations with the muslim community, to identify people who might be going in the wrong direction. it also means not alienating
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young men in particular, who are the raw material for so much of terrorism. so to focus on immigration, when again immigration wasn't the issue here, and to focus on a class of people when we want to have a constructive relationship with american muslims, just seems to me to be exactly the wrong way to go. >> now i want to play a clip of the president today, making his case why he does not use the phrase radical islamic terrorist. here it is. i want your response on the other side. >> they want us to validate them, by implying that they speak for those billion-plus people, that they speak for islam. that's their propaganda. that's how they recruit. and if we fall into the trap of painting all muslims with a broad brush and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the terrorists' work for them.
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>> where do you fall on this debate? >> well, the whole idea is to avoid a clash between civilizations. there's 1.5 billion muslims around the world. we cannot afford by any way to be at war and alienated from most of them. what we want to do is foment a clash within a civilization to isolate isis, to show this is not the correct path. interestingly enough, one of the best ways to do that is to show that muslim americans have been able to enjoy and continue to enjoy real freedom, are accepted, that there's nothing in this country that's denied to them. they can be good muslims and they can be good americans. that's the best way i know to combat -- or one of the best ways i know to combat the ideology and the appeal of isis. we've got to stay true to that, rather than give isis talking points. >> now, there have been a lot of republican criticism of the muslim ban, and i want to play
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that too. i don't want people to think this is just a one-sided argument. this is just today, let me get your reaction. >> on the republican side, this is not about banning all muslims. this ban was an american citizen born in queens. >> i do not think a muslim ban is in our country's interest. i do not think it's reflective of our principles, not just as a party but as a country. >> i do not believe there should be a religious-based test. we'll need the help of muslims to continue to fight isis. >> there seems to be a settled argument here, donald trump has had success by basically challenging the norms of the establishment on all levels. either inside the republican party, foreign policy, but should republicans be speaking out more, in your opinion, on this? >> well, donald trump has for the most part, been outside the mainstream of republican foreign policy. he disagrees with the neocons,
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but also with the realists. he's been something of an economic nationalist. i think when he says these that ought to be criticized, it's good that it's not just democrats who are criticizing him, it's good that it's republicans. some things are beyond politics. i don't see republicans holding back. i think the difficult choice for a lot of republicans in public life is how to square the circle, where, on one hand, donald trump is the presumptive nominee. he got the plurality of the votes in the republican primary. on the other hand, he's continuing to say and write things that a lot of republicans simply flat out disagree with. and how to square the circle, that they either have endorsed him or are under pressure to endorse him. but they disagree with them. that's a real dilemma, chuck. the word "dilemma" is often overused, but that's a real dilemma. >> two schools of thoughts.
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one that says the world is listening to donald trump and thinks the world has to hear an opposing few. where do you fall on this? >> i agree with the president. the world is watching and listening. i can't go anywhere and not have the campaign raised. i can't have a visitor welcomed here and not have the campaign raised. so it's important that people understand the views of one candidate are not synonymous with the views of the american people. and again, in this case, i don't think what mr. trump is saying is representative of most people who are part of the foreign policy debate. >> you know, i'm old enough to remember -- we have unwritten rules in baseball. there were unwritten rules in campaign politics. if a tragedy struck during a campaign, everybody gave the president space, a couple of days. you gave him space and everybody pulled back because you wanted one person to speak. those norms are out the window. how do we return them? >> those norms are out the window and the whole idea that
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politics stops at the water's edge. that foreign policy -- >> that ended a long time ago, too, right? [ laughter ] >> we're dating ourselves here. >> yes, we are. >> look, normally it takes crises to bring people together. and i think you're pointing to an important thing. increasingly crises are doing that. that to me raises some fundamental questions about whether the center in american politics can hold. and this campaign has brought that issue to the fore, because we have people who are not playing, if you will, at midfield, but increasingly towards the end zones, whether it's the sanders' campaign on the democratic side, or mr. trump's campaign on the republican side, and the real question for me is whether centrist, be they republican, democrat, or independents, can come together to forge a workable majority. >> you bring up an important point. crises in the last couple of years, have served to divide us more, not unite us in a moment. it's kind of sad.
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richard haas appreciate your views and time as well. we'll talk to congressman peter king, fresh out of a briefing on orlando with top administration officials. that will happen later in the show. and reacting to trump's remarks after the orlando attacks. but first international espionage hits the dnc, we'll have exclusive reaction from debbie wasserman schultz. she joins me next. company's se. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of at&t, and security thasenses d mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever. giving them the agility to be open & secure. because no one knows & like at&t.
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if a political candidate has any secrets or weaknesses, opposition research teams are tasked with finding it. now there's evidence cyber spies from two russian intelligence agencies targeted this routine political practice for their own uses. nbc news confirms that hackers accessed opposition research files to donald trump in the democratic national committee server. they broke into the server last year and again in april of this year. the breach included all of the internal communication including chat and e-mail. kremlin is denying any
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at jet.com, we're always looking for monesaving innations. >> unbelievable headline today, russian intelligence broke into servers at the democratic national committee and accessed opposition research about donald trump. joining me now, exclusively tonight, the chair of the dnc, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. welcome back. i have to say that was sort of an out of left field news story this morning. tell us more about this competing russian spy agencies and they only went after donald trump files? >> from everything we can tell, yes. what we did in late april, our really incredible, capable technology team, detected that there was some suspicious activity. when that occurred, we immediately contacted crowd
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strike, which is the leading forensic expert firm in this space, and secured their services. and over the course of the last six or seven weeks, we made sure that their surveillance really dove deeply into our network to get a handle on what was happening. and thankfully over the weekend, we were able to successfully migrate our entire network and rid our network of these intruders and they did, as you said, get access to some opposition research files. but our primary concern was to make sure that we could secure the information of our state parties, reassure them and our supporters that we have a network that is now clean, and that there was no personal information of our donors, no access to our voter file, and that our network is now secure. that was our number one priority. >> so why are they so convinced that it was so tactical like
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this? because what you're describing is a very tactical break-in. as if they didn't just come in and scoop everything up. i know the chinese are more likely to do that in general, the russians are more tactical but why is crowd strike so convinced nothing else got through? >> crowd strike is the foremost expert when it comes to the forensics and investigation into this type of a breach. so they, in really doing a deep dive, could see what was taken and what was taken from their analysis, was these opposition research files. and look, you know, this is somewhat understandable, that this is what they'd be interested in. because you're talking about the opposition research files of a national party who is obviously collecting information about presidential candidates and we've got a -- the most dangerous presidential
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presumptive nominee on the republican side, who's bilked customers of trump university of millions of dollars, who has made extreme and disturbing statements, asked for the president's resignation, so it's understandable that foreign intelligence services would be interested in that information. unacceptable. and so we made sure that we took every step we could as quickly as we could to rid them of our network. >> one would assume if they were interested in your files on trump, they would be interested in the files on hillary clinton at the rnc. did you contact them and say, you should be on the lookout. what have you done on that score? >> i really can't discuss the communication we've had with other entities and the experience that other entities have had -- >> it would make sense, though, for you to warn your counterpart on something like this, this is foreign intelligence? >> i'm just saying that i can't
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discuss it with you, but i can tell you this espionage network has been able to get into other federal agencies. so it's a very aggressive -- there's two different ones. they're very aggressive. very sophisticated and they repeatedly make attempts like this. i'm just proud of our tech team, as well as the services of crowd strike. they aggressively and swiftly resolved this problem for us and now our network and clean and we've migrated everything to a new network. and we have very sophisticated monitoring technology that is attached to our network now, so we'll be table to make sure this doesn't happen and detect it if there's any effort again. >> let me stay with your role as dnc chair. as you know, senator sanders put out a list of demands today, let me play a clip for you and get you to respond on the other side. >> i do believe that we have to replace the current democratic national committee leadership.
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we need a person at the leadership of the dnc who is vigorously supporting and out working to bring people into the political process. yeah, i know political parties need money. but it is more important that we have energy, that we have young people, that we have working class people, who are going to participate in the political process and fight for their kids and for their parents. >> if you are the impediment to unity between sanders and clinton, do you wash your hands of this post and walk away? >> you know, chuck, i'm so proud of our incredible team at the dnc that has been working night and day for months to stand up our general election effort all across this country, make sure that we can hire hundreds of staff to place in battleground states, which we've been doing. just about a week or so ago, there was an article that talked about the panic that has been struck in the hearts of trump
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supporters, because we are clearly already out-organizing and out-staffing the republicans. we have a digital and technological advantage that we've maintained and expanded. so we are singularly focused. we're all going to be coming together to unite and make sure that the most dangerous presumptive nominee that any political party has ever nominated in donald trump, who just called in the wake of the worst mass shooting in american history, in my home state, donald trump demonstrated his leadership by calling for the resignation of the president of the united states and questioned whether he was more committed to terrorists than he was to our country. and that's outrageous and unacceptable. and that's what we're focused on, to make sure we elect a democratic president in the fall. >> i understand that, but bernie sanders has a list of demands. one includes changing the leadership at the dnc and he spoke about all the leadership,
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not just you. are you -- do you feel as if your job is part of this negotiation between clinton and sanders? >> no. what i know is that we are working hard to make sure that we have the best nominating convention that any political party has ever put on, that will launch our nominee to the white house and into the fall campaign. we continue to draw very stark and clear contrasts between our party's nominee and donald trump, who has, as you've reported, proposed banning an entire religion. even his own party members are condemning him for that proposal, declaring entire ethnicities like mexicans, who just for coming to this country to make a better way of life for themselves and this family, rapists and drug dealers, saying we should deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. this man is not only unqualified, he's disqualified himself from being a candidate for president or even getting
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anywhere near the white house. that's what we're focused on. >> i'm impressed with how you shifted this to donald trump. but i want to go back -- >> that's what the focus is. our focus at the dnc is not on anything else other than electing a democrat for president. >> so when you say definitively, you're not leafing this job before the end of november, period? >> no, i'm going to be focused on electing a democratic president. that's what we've been doing at the dnc. i have an incredible team that has worked with me to ensure that we can be the most prepared. and i'm confident that because so donald trump is so incredibly dangerous and threatens the security of this country, that we will elect a democratic president and americans will unite against his hatred and the rhetoric that he has spewed that has been vile and vitriolic. >> has secretary clinton indicated she wants you to stay at democratic chair? >> you know, i have very much appreciated the support of the
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president, the vice president, secretary clinton and her team and i look forward to continuing to work as hard as we possibly can to make sure that we can elect a democrat president and that's what we're singularly focused on because there's so much at stake. >> do you believe it would be easier for you to run in your primary as dnc chair or if you took that hat off? >> you know, my constituents believe in the agenda of the democratic party, and i have been so ratified by the pride that many of them have expressed, that the president of the united states asked me five years ago to take to this additional responsibility and watch his back and be a strong political voice, to advance our agenda, so we can help people reach the middle class. so proud to help champion that we've had 75 straight months of job growth in the private sector. add two million people who now have health insurance.
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i'm so proud to represent them and look forward to asking for their support on august 30th, to be their democratic nominee and then to continue to represent them in our nation's capital. it's a tremendous privilege they don't take for granted. >> does the dnc consider hillary clinton the presumptive nominee right now? >> you know, today is the last -- the day of our last primary and the polls have not closed, so we are not presuming anything, other than we are going to do everything we can to make sure donald trump never gets anywhere near the white house. >> are you already working with clinton staffers, though, on certain fundraising things and some organizing things? >> i think you know, we have a joint fundraising committee with secretary clinton. we actually have two joint fundraising committees. we've now got a general election focused fundraising committee and we have been ramping up, as i said for months now. >> but she's not the presumptive nominee, as far as the dnc is concerned right now? >> we are not going to declare anyone the nominee before the last votes are cast, which will be today. >> and i know that you're going
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to be doing softball, it's the media versus members of congress tomorrow. >> yes. >> and you get fired up on it. my producers get fired up. >> andrea mitchell is one of our emcees. so exciting. >> and you're playing for a specific charity. tell us about it. >> we're playing for the young survivor coalition. this is the eighth year that our team plan to beat the press, who we have beaten the last two years, and this is all for the cause of raising money for the young survival coalition, it helps young women diagnosed with breast cancer under 40 years old. i was diagnosed with breast cancer at 41. we want to continue to shine a spotlight and help young women know they need to be familiar with their own breast health and know what's normal for them, so they can know when something feels different. we'll set a record in attendance and in the money we've raised.
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very proud of my colleagues and the press. >> and this time the press is gonna win. i just want to clarify -- >> we'll see. we'll see. i'm feeling three-peat. >> one of my producers isn't fully -- you are -- you plan on being the chair of the dnc through the election in november? >> i am planning on continuing to focus all the way through the election to the end of my term, on making sure that we can elect democrats up and down the ballot, especially and including the president of the united states. >> so your position is not a bargaining chip for bernie sanders? >> i am focused 100% and expect to continue to be focused 100% through the election and to the end of my term on electing democrats up and down the ballot. >> some people will say there's a little space in there. >> i am going to continue to focus on electing a democratic president, no space, i'm focused, and my team is focused and democrats will come together as we should to make sure that we can defeat donald trump and elect our party's nominee. we're all going to be one team
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after this primary is over. thank you. hope to see you out there tomorrow night, chuck. i hope you're out there. >> and if i do, i would bring my softball-playing daughter. watch out. she'd be a member of the press, you'd be in trouble. thank you very much. >> thanks. coming up, new information on the investigation into the orlando nightclub attack. stay tuned. it's not a banner that goes on wall. it's not something you do now and then. or when it's convenient. 's using state-of-the-art simulators to better prepare for any situation. it's giving offshore teams onshore support. and it'empowering anyoo stop a j ifomething doesn't seem right. at b safety is never being satisfied. and ways working to be better.
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now the very latest on the investigation and of course the deadliest mass shooting in american history. the latest piece of grim news, we learned in the last hour that all of the autopsies on the 49 victims are now complete. 20 of the bodies have been released to bodies. 33 people are still hospitalized at this hour. this afternoon the father of the gunman expressed his condolen s condolences, but also seemed to
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criticize security at the club. >> when you have children past 19, there's nothing you can do. you are responsible for your own action. if the owner of this club knew that 3 or 400 people are coming, they should have had the best security. >> are you blaming the club? >> no. if there was security, eliminate him, this tragedy will not happen. >> our own justice correspondent confirmed that omar mateen's wife told the fbi she drove her husband to the pulse nightclub on at least one occasion before the attack. she said she tried to talk him out of conducting some kind of attack, which implies that she knew of the planning. i'm joined from congressman, peter king. a member of the homeland security committee and chairman. always to hear from you, sir. >> great to be with you.
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>> we're trying to figure out, not just the motive, but everything we can about the killer. what did you learn today that you didn't know sunday to monday? >> well, it's a classified briefing, so i can't give you very much, but there's really nothing dramatic. a lot of what was spoken about today was in the media. the fbi is going back to the two investigations that they conducted to see if there's anything they might have missed. there's the reports about the wife, if it's true, that she did know it was going to happen and tried to talk him out of it, then there's possible criminal action against her. all of that has to be investigated. if there's anybody else he was dealing with, talking to, anyone who may have known about it, this is where the investigation is going down. i think director comey wants to see if any changes have to be made in the way the fbi conducted what they did. one concern i have, and i'm not being critical of the fbi here, is that when you have an
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investigation like this, and this is all in the public record, what director comey has said, how unstable he appeared to be, the radical remarks about al qaeda and isis and hezbollah, all of that. and the fact that he had a violent temper and mood swings, okay, that maybe was not enough to bring about a actual certain level of suspicion or criminal behavior, but somehow there should be a category to keep someone like him in for future surveillance or make sure the local police follow-up, because that's the type of person that isis is trying to appeal to. the people who are mentally unstable, who do have these irrational isis sympathies, or islamist sympathies. >> it sounds like the way you're describing this, are they coming around that the profile of this guy is a mentally unstable, perhaps he was closeted, perhaps, we don't know, but that this is less and less looking like it was something directed from overseas? >> yeah, i think right now, it
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appears that it was inspired. but see, i wouldn't minimize it by saying that, because that's how isis is making an appeal. unlike al qaeda, isis seems to have an appeal to create the army, the hard core, the dedicated, those who are willing to go overseas and fight. >> it's a cult? >> yeah. and in new york city, a year and a half ago, the person who attacked two police officers with a hatchet. he was inspired on the internet by isis. they have an appeal to these border line, mentally unstable people. so the fbi has to create some sort of a category for people like that, so they can be subject to further surveillance. >> i'm curious, if there's a category like that, that puts them on surveillance, do you take it to the next step and make sure they can't buy any weapons, or they get into a special category where maybe their background check better be in person, that it is, you know, it's going to take them weeks to get a firearm like the two
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firearms he bought, not days? >> i would support that. again, we'd have to fine-tune it. but i'm the one sponsoring the bill in the house, it's not going anywhere, unfortunately, which says that if you're on the terrorist watch list, you shouldn't be able to purchase a gun. this would not necessarily be a terror watch list, but it would be a special zone we're creating where you get more scrutiny, or vetting before you could obtain a weapon. >> peter king, i'll leave it there, and i think we've made it so that you didn't violate any classified agreement. >> thank you, sir. >> thanks for coming on. up next, our race of the day, it's washington, d.c. as it buttons up the 2016 presidential primary. so what is next for bernie sanders? we'll talk a little bit about that straight ahead. i'terrible at golf.
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sanders and clinton will meet face to face tonight in the nation's capital. democratic leaders are hoping it will end with sanders suspending his campaign, endorsing clinton and doing a unity event and then fully focusing on donald trump. stick with msnbc for the latest on the clinton-sanders summit. we'll have the breaking news if news has been broken. we'll be right back with "the lid." you wouldn't believe what's in this kiester. a farmer's market. a fire truck. even a marching band. and if i can get comfortable talking about this kiester, then you can get comfortable using preparation h. for any sort of discomfort in yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. the call just came in. she's about to arrive.
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democrats up and down the ballot. >> some people will say there's a little space in there. >> i am going to continue to focus on electing a democratic president, no space, i'm focused and my team is focused and democrats will come together as we should to make sure that we can defeat donald trump and elect our party's nominee. we're all going to be one team after this primary is over. time for "the lid." that was a few minutes ago, i asked congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz multiple times if she'll remain in that position. she was not comfortable giving an answer on that. susan page, anita dunn and ben ginsburg join me now. super lawyer. i do bob the same way. they're two similar lawyers together. okay? >> fine. >> anita, you're the democrat here, you know how the party works. that to me sounded like somebody who can only say what they can control.
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and can she control her own fate? >> you know, chuck, it's interesting, because the democratic party is in much better shape technically than the republican party, the democratic party, in terms of the digital, in terms of our field organizations, in terms of our overall unity, in terms of digital and field organization, in terms of our overall unity. we don't have our congressional leadership denouncing the nominee on a daily basis. >> the bar is low. >> this is a party that's come through a primary process in good shape. i think at the end of the day, the party does unite around donald trump and around winning the election. you know, she's got party that's in very good shape. >> if sanders insists the hill he wants to die on, is there going to be a change? >> it's not my decision to make.
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i would say that senator sanders, who joined this party a year ago, who wants to help the party reach out to younger people, who says that the party needs to do a better job of having energy and raising small donors can be an enormous part of that change by mailing his list, by campaigning on campu s campuses. he play a huge role in shaping the direction of the democratic party. >> new poll out from bloomberg, shock eed a bit in that it's double digits, three-way race. they have it 49-37-9 for gary johnson. obviously, we know about the survey monkey poll. we had it 49-42. similar on clinton's numbers. this implies that clinton is getting her bump. this is all pre-orlando. >> the real question to the republican party and with the convention is whether those numbers end up getting reflected in the senate race.
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if you see republican senate candidates that are pretty even in the six battleground states starting to feel the effect of those numbers, that's when things -- >> what does that mean? if by the end of the month would the movement be a foot. portman, johnson, all have gone, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> i think you have to have the leadership to make the movement at the convention take hold. it's not clear what the leadership is yet. >> it's difficult to get republicans to talk on the republican about trump. paul ryan did. >> super lawyers are out here though. >> super lawyers. >> today would have been a day if they wanted to go for the kill and try to change nominees, i think you would seen a bunch of them out there. >> you asked if debbie wasserman
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schultz future up to here, i think not really. is donald trump's future up to him. i think so. i think it's up to him whether he moves away. frustrating thing for republicans is traditionally, you look at a terrorist attack and attack 49 people dead that the president might be held responsible. as he kept us safe. you could make the argument that tougher policies that republicans espouse could give them a bump out of a terrible tragedy like that. i don't think we see that happening. >> this is how republicans on capitol hill. mitch mcconnell, i'm not going to be commenting on the presidential candidates. pat toomey, i didn't follow it closely. richard burr, you need to take that up with the trump campaign. today was remarkable watching the president respond to trump. i was surprised.
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>> somebody explain why it's the dnc that seems to be in trouble when you have this dynamic in the republican party. the president signalled not only his intention of really engaging in a very frontal way with what he views. he says it's candidate for the presidency that would be harmful to america. this isn't a question of i don't agree with him on social security or his tax cuts are too big, this is clearly someone the president of the united states believes would be a bad president for america and america's interests. what you saw today was a president who clearly said, i'm going to be out there every day if i have to. >> ben, i was struck by a phrase that paul ryan said. it's not about party, but i'm supporting our nominee. when you say things like that, how much patience do the rest of the republican leaders have? is it based on where the senate will go. >> you can see the conflict
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inside of republicans today. they had to deal with statements they don't believe in from their nominee with the fact that susan pointed out. he is more likely than not, he's very likely. he's going to be the nominee of the party. how do you rationalize your own future. it's going to be an interesting few weeks. >> we've never had a president play this role before. a two-term president who is popular enough to make a difference and who is welcomed by the nominee and is willing to atatack the other party's nominee. >> we haven't had a nominee like this. >> it's an interesting legacy for a president to be a particular attack dog. that would be the role of the vice presidential candidate. >> you normally wouldn't wabt to -- want to be in that position. >> it's a different time and the
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stakes are high. the nominee is somebody this president feels can't be allowed to get away with the stuff that he's saying. he's going to call him on it because it's really not american values. this president feels it strongly. he's been taking the on donald trump for years now. >> one could argue he's been the only one that's won more fights with him than others. we'll see. today was among the most remarkable days. >> it's still 7:00 speech from donald trump. >> we'll be right back after this. i want to trim my a1c. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® provides powerful a1reduction. works like you body'snsulin. when my scdule changes... i want sething that delivers. ♪ tresiba®dy ♪ i can take tresiba® any timef day. so if i miss or delay a dose, i take it when i remember, as long as there's at least 8 hours between doses. once in use, it lasts 8 weeks without refrigeration...
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that does it for today. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." we have special coverage from orlando. a good tuesday evening to you. i'm craig melvin in orlando. about 200 yards from the pulse nightclub. here is the latest on the tragedy. 33 people are still being treated in area hospitals. six of them are in critical condition. several survivors recall what happened inside that club. >> i saw him with his phone and i picked it up because i truly believed i was told she was breathing that her pulse was still going that i would be able to give that phone